Justice Scalia Asks ‘Why no ancient Greek gay marriages?’
The Supreme Court will make a ruling on whether same-sex marriage should be made the law of the land. If it does, what will the states do? Will we see states ignoring the ruling of the court since there is nothing in the Constitution – including the 14th Amendment – giving jurisdiction to the national government on the redefinition of marriage?
One of the biggest problems with the Constitution is that it does not set forth a firm foundation for its authority beyond “We the people. . .” But even the people are being overruled by renegade judges who overturn laws prohibiting same-sex marriage in more than a dozen states. The Constitution in fact should read “We five judges. . .” Our founders never meant it to be this way.
It’s inconceivable that both state and federal representation can be overruled by five unelected judges who are no greater authority than themselves.
In yesterday’s opening arguments on same-sex marriage,
“The most dramatic moment in a historic case before the U.S. Supreme Court on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage Tuesday morning came after the first attorney had wrapped up her argument. ‘Gay marriage is an abomination in the eyes of God,’ suddenly screamed a protester in the courtroom.
“After continuing his protest, the man was escorted from the court room.
Justice Antonin Scalia quipped, ‘That was refreshing, actually,’ causing loud laughter to ripple through the courtroom.”
Yes, it was refreshing since it pointed out that the Supreme Court Justices have no clothes under their robes, that is, they have no basis on which to make sound moral rulings.
They rely on precedent. But on what does the first precedent rest on? It all comes down to personal opinion, but only some opinions matter.
Instead of appealing to the Bible, Justice Scalia appealed to the Greeks and Romans. It may have been strategic on his part since liberals love the Greeks and Romans. One of our nation’s national law-making bodies is named the Senate after the Romans.
Thew following is from Garth Kant at WND:
“The justice noted the Greeks and Romans had no moral disapproval of homosexual relations, yet neither culture ever considered approving same-sex marriage. The implication was that those cultures must have found it would cause some sort of harm to society.
“Scalia used the same example to indicate that modern state laws defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman were not motivated by dislike of, or discrimination against, gays.
“He asked attorney Mary Bonauto, who argued in favor of same-sex marriage, if it were true that homosexual relationships but not marriages were sanctioned by those cultures.
“When she said yes, Scalia continued, ‘So their exclusion of same-sex marriage was not due to prejudice, right?’ Adding, unless she considered Plato prejudiced.
Bonauto replied she could not speak for ancient philosophers but was immediately cut off by liberal Justice Stephen Breyer, who, perhaps surprisingly, picked up the conservative Scalia’s line of argument.
“Breyer noted heterosexual marriage has been the law everywhere for thousands of years, and suddenly Bonauto was asking for immediate change.
“‘Why can’t these states wait and see’ if the other states’ experiments in gay marriage leads to harm?”
We don’t have to wait. Same-sex marriage is already causing harm. Ask the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa. Garth Kant’s article is well worth reading.
Contrary to Justice Scalia’s historical point about there being no homosexual marriages in either ancient Greece or Rome, there was a very significant same-sex marriage. Consider Roman Emperor Nero Caesar:
“[A]ccording to historical accounts, [Nero] ordered his first wife, Octavia, killed; kicked his second wife, Poppaea, to death when she was pregnant; saw to the murder of his mother, Agrippina the Younger (possibly after sleeping with her); perhaps also murdered his stepbrother, Britannicus; instructed his mentor Seneca to commit suicide (which he solemnly did); castrated and then married a teenage boy; presided over the wholesale
arson of Rome in A.D. 64 and then shifted the blame to a host of Christians (including Saints Peter and Paul), who were rounded up and beheaded or crucified and set aflame so as to illuminate an imperial festival.”
If pro-same-sex marriage advocates are looking for historical support for same-sex marriage, Nero Caesar is their man!